>> al thank you so much. "state of the union" with "state of the union" with candy crowley starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com the week in number, six, the number signed up for obama care on day one. 4 2, the president's approval rating. today, barack obama's town turn, the beginning of his lame duck era or a temporary slump. >> january 1st and thereafter when real people around the country regardless of politics are getting belter benefits, this will be a different story. 22, percentage of americans with a favorable view of republicans after the obama care shut down, obama care rollout,

the landscape with republican senator kelly, 365, the number of days until the 2014 elections. >> you're fired up. >> we have a better way. >> romney versus obama. been there, done that or maybe not? have you heard the one about vice president clinton or chr christie. this is "state of the union". good morning from washington. i'm candy crowley. attorneys charged the man that opened fire at lax with two felonies. the gunman, 23-year-old paul ciancia killed hernandez. two additional agents were wounded. joining me now from austin texas is the chairman of the house homeland committee michael

mccaul. congressman, thank you for joining us. in the aftermath of this, the question i hear most often is -- >> thank you. >> -- why did he do this? do you know about that? i know you've been able to see some notes that he wrote. what do you think the motivation was here? >> i think mental illness, once again, kind of like the navy yard shooter that we saw. the suicide note that i read talks a lot about killing tsa agents, and if he said if i just kill one my mission is accomplished and unfortunately, he did do that the other day and the other thing he wanted to talk about is how easy it is to bring a gun into an airport and do something just like he did and my simple thoughs go out to the hernandez family and the other victims, this tragic day. he's the first tsa agent officer to be killed in the line of duty. >> congressman, it's our understanding that much of the literature he had on him was

both anti-government, anti-tsa but you're telling me his intent was suicide after he did damage? >> well, it's clearly one of those notes that reads i'm going to go kill people, and i don't want to kill civilians, with the idea that he's going to die at the end of this. the other thing that i think was equally as tragic was that his family in new jersey had notified new jersey local authorities, who then in turn notified the local l.a. police who actually visited the suspect's home the morning of the shooting and missed him by literally probably 45 minutes. so this is how we typically stop these things is through good intelligence and if family members or friends see a loved one who is exhibiting signs of mental illness, that -- and

suicidal tendencies, which he did describe in his e-mails to his family members, then i think it's incumbent to call this to local authorities. they actually did that in this case and unfortunately, missed the suspect by a matter of minutes. >> right. when you look add what hattened in so far as logistics of it, we know that this suspect was able to take a lot of ammunition and his weapon down the corridor where there were no armed police officers at that point. the tsa is obviously unarmed. we also know that los angeles moved to kind of the rooving patrols throughout the airport as opposed to having for sure one armed guard at a security check point. do you see anything worth rethinking right now? >> i talked to the director of tsa john pistol yesterday.

we talked about a review of the policies at airports. every airport is a little bit different but the coordination with the local police is key because remember, tsa officers are not armed. it the local police that provide the perimeter security, if you will, that's a more soft target outside the check points and so, what we want to do is conduct and i want to work with the director of tsa to lack at how are we coordinating with locals at the airports of security, police officers to see is there something we can do better or differently? i will commend the officers, though, for a very quick and effective response. as you point out, he had multiple rounds that could have killed so many more people. we're fortunate that that didn't happen but unfortunate an officer was killed. >> i seen reports recently that the suspect entered the exit at the security point, in other words, the guard that you kind of walk by as you depart an airport and coming out of where

the actual gates are. is that your understanding, and that place has always struck me as kind of an open hole. >> yeah, it's confusing in the accounts that i've read but he shot the tsa officer who was checking documents, went up an escalator, came back down, shot him again and went through the security point. i think it's important we have the local law enforcement really at different points at the airport to protect not only the perimeter but also things that could happen through security check point. the other thing that's important, candy, there are teams out there, they are called viper teams and what they are, the tsa runs are essentially detection and detour rant teams and talking to director pistol, he wants to further utilize the

teams at airports to make surt american people are safe and the traveling public are safe when they go to our airports. i think that with better coordination with local law enforcement should help tremendously, however, having said that, it's very difficult to stop these types of attacks. anybody can show up as we saw in the navy yard with the shotgun, in this case with the semiautomatic and it's like a shopping mall outside the perimeter. it's almost like an open shopping mall so very difficult to protect but viper teams with local law enforcement can't provide that. we will be reviewing this along with the director of tsa. >> great. congressman, thank you for joining us. appreciate your input. >> thank you. now, onto the next subject, remember when the president said this. >> this is the most chance

pararent administration in history. >> our next guest will disagree with that. she asked to interview the survivors of those from benghazi but administration said because the survivors are potential witnesses in a terrorism prosecution and that disclosure of their identities could put their lives at increased risk. also, hhs secretary kathleen sebelius is refusing to answer her questions, including, specifically, the number of people who have enrolled in new hampshire's health care exchange now. joining me now is kelly aoit. thank you for joining us. >> good morning, candy. thank you. >> there is a movement by senator lindsey graham to block all of the president's nominees until survivors of the benghazi attack are allowed to come and testify to various committees. are you on board with that

tactic? >> well, candy, we've written several times, not only secretary kerry, but also the president asking for the survivors to be made available to congress to get to the bottom of this. i understand we've been brushed off many times. i understand senator gram is going to be speaking to the administration about this, trying to come up cooperatively to address this issue but it's not acceptable that they have not been made available and to say that because there is an on going investigation in terrorism, that would preclude oversight by the congress in any terrorism case. >> right. >> including 9/11. so i think there are ways to work together and make sure that we're protecting the sensitive nature of this but to not get to the bottom of this is not acceptable. we keep being brushed off. >> to the question are you willing as senator gram is to block nominees until those witnesses are produced on capitol hill?

>> candy, i don't have a hold on any witnesses right now, but -- and i'm hoping we can work this out with the administration, but i assume republicans will come together because it's been so long, over a year without answers and being basic access to the survivors that were there, that by the way, it can't just be the executive branch gets this access. many of them were interviewed in congestion with the arb report but haven't been made available to congress so i'll evaluate whatever means we need to do to get that information, but i hope we can work this out cooperatively and i think we should be able to. it's been too long and we've been brushed off for too long. >> i'll take that as a maybe yes, maybe no and move on to something that jay carney said in response to this. >> the fact is we have been enormously cooperative and gone to extraordinary efforts to work with seven different congressional committees investigating what happened before, during and after the benghazi attacks, including

testimony of 13 different congressional hearings and participation in 40 staff briefings and the provision of over 25,000 pages of documents. >> is administration correct in -- >> candy -- >> go ahead. >> well, i'll tell you right now, i pamean, jay carney, well over a week well after that had said this was not preplanned or meditated and blamed this on the video and we still don't have answers why that information came out the way it did and the misrepresentations were made to the american people. but there is much information that has been brought forward including why were security requests denied, provided access to these survivors. we asked for months in trying to work cooperatively with the administration, so what he said is not the case. it can't be that the executive branch just hopes this goes away because the american people and the victims of this deserve to know the truth. >> moving on to health care and the president's affordable care

act. it seems to me republicans at this point take one of two positions on this, either all right, let's -- this is going to go into effect january 1, let's see what we can do to fix it or let us continue to try to derail it. where are you on that spectrum? >> well, candy, i can tell you, this is a mess. you've seen not only the problems with the website, but it's much deeper than the website including so many americans getting cancellation notations right now including stories from people in new hampshire, rising premium cost as a result of obama care. it's much deeper than the website. i was a republican who said -- called out members of my own party on the shut down because i didn't think it was effective and good for the country. i'm calling on the president now to say, let's have a time out on this, mr. president. you call a time out on this. convene a group of bipartisan

leaders to address health care concerns in this country because this is not working. i'm hearing it from my constituents and let's do this right, as opposed the to the way it was passed in the first instance. >> i want to play for you something the president said wednesday in boston about the opposition to his affordable care act. >> unfortunately, there are others that are so locked into the poll titics of this thing t won't lift a finger to help their own people because if they put as much energy into making this law work as they do in attacking the law, americans would be better off. [ applause ] >> now, he is saying in a sort of way what other democrats are saying out there is that you-all would rather defeat the president and obama care than help your constituents. have you helped your constituents called to your office looking for help, and do you think republicans are

vulnerable and tried to hard and so many times to derail it, the criticism looks like nothing but politics? >> well, candy, my conhit wenst are riding me but how can i help because of the way that obama care is drafted when they can't access the website because it's such a mess. so absolutely, i want to help my constituents but again, i would say to the president, why doesn't he call a timeout on this, understanding that it's not working right now? this was passed on a forty line basis. why not convene a group to see how can we work together, issues like the 29-hour workweek and people being denied current plans and rising health care costs, all of which i'm hearing the opposite of my constituents, i want to help them but administration in the way it's rolledout is a mess so it's time to call a time out.

>> let me move you to new polling we saw this week, we talked about the president's numbers in the open and i want to remind you the polling on the republican party positive 22% and negative 53%. what does that tell you about the midterm elections a year from today with the republican party at such a -- held in such low esteem by voters? >> well, candy, what i think it tells you is that the american people from the president, obviously, the president's poll numbers aren't doing well, either. they want leadership and to get things done and they didn't appreciate the government shut down. i didn't support it. here we are with obama care again that they want problems to be solved, and i think that they will reward the people who are trying to work to solve problems for this country. it a long way until the 2014 election but i guarantee that obama care is going to be one of the primary issues on it and

that's why i say now let's work together because there are real issues and that need to be addressed but certainly, this is not the answer. >> nonetheless, going into an election year with a 22% approval rating for the party and by the way, a very low approval rating for congress in general, is not a great place to start and it's clear that what democrats want to campaign on is that republicans are block everything we want to do and what republicans want to campaign on is obama care is a disaster and it's not going to work. is that an atmosphere in which you can get anything done? >> well, i think we owe it to the american people to get things done. one thing that i took from the whole shutdown situation had a chance to work with bipartisan group of senators is i think the american people are frustrated. congress has a low approval

rating because we're not getting anything done. we're in the budget negotiations. we need to deal with basic issues of oversight of government and i think that's what it's about and frankly a problem for both parties. >> little time left but i need to ask recently senator reed had said that he would, you know, selfishly like to see ted cruz run for president and be on the ticket. >> i think 2016 is a couple years away. i think we'll have a number of candidates. many will come to new hampshire. my constituents in new hampshire will but harry reid will not decide our nominee and there is a number of kmenlt candidates out there including governors. >> senator kelly, i'll take that as not quite a yes and not quite

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mira tamdon also a former advisor to kathleen sebelius and cnn cross fire co-host newt gingrich and congrats on you new book, "break out" run, do not walk to your bookstore and u.s. senator from arkansas lost her seat in 2010 partly because of her support for the president's health care legislation. i want to start with you. we're seeing democrats get increasingly worried. i want to look at a couple headline where is democrats had and vented to obama officials. senator durbin said people are anxious and jeff merkley said i don't think there's confidence by anyone in the room. is there any way for democrats to back up and insulate

themselves from might be or might not be backlash from the polls? >> i think they have plenty of time and i do not think that's necessary. i got hit hard coming home to arkansas for voting for part d of bush's medicare. i worked with the administration. we did our dog and pony shows with cms and hss folks and arkansas ended up being the top ten states for enroll lees for the prescription plans. it's hard to envision a health care plan for seniors without a prescription drug. it hard for us to see wing able to put our economy right if we continue to spend the money we do on health care, the percentage of our gdp and getting the same results we are. we have to start looking at how we'll make this thing work and come together and figure that out and i think that's what they are doing with the add minute stati -- administration. they heard what there is out

there and will ramp up. those are technical things that can get fixed and they will. >> you know, i wanted to see if something sounded familiar. this is a little bit of a national republican editorial campaign committee video that came out. it an ad against prior -- actually where they hit him pretty hard on you're too close to obama, you're really a liberal and they focus on health care. that has got to be at some level worry some for someone in arkansas. >> it is. just certainly because arkansas has become very red and there's a problem there in that a lot of people, i think, they have -- have the other side, the republicans have really prayed on the arkansas people to create that distrust with obama but, you know, it's not anything that he he can't rise above and not anything as we move forward in the next six months of enrollment we won't be able to

see. there was a man in arkansas rece recently, a republican actually able to go to the marketplace and get his health care, better coverage from his same blue cross package for 13, $13,000 less. so i mean, there -- there are people out there finding it. it just takes time. >> it does that. i want to bring in the rest of the group and turn this in general to where the president's poll numbers are now. 4 2% not an all-time low but getting down there. to the opening question, is this a slump or beginning of the laying duck period? >> well, of course the period on lame duck period but he can recover. it's the disaster of the layout but this super secret state of

the nsa and converges to make it difficult for him. but the truth still is he's known forever that he was going to be defined by this health care plan. and he still has a chance to recover if it comes out okay in the next six months. >> the rub -- >> the -- >> the rollout can't be flekted when it happens. >> there is a piece quoting him after every meeting this is well and good but if healthcare.glove doesn't work, we're wasted. >> everybody is frustrated the website doesn't work. hopefully it will work by the end of november. we should recognize there are people around the country and states that have signed up. 150,000 people around the countr country. people with leading on the

extension. there are people benefits from the law now. it unexcusable the website isn't work. we can work on it. >> newt, is it the website, it's terrible -- >> there are pieces people did not know even existed. we did a "cross fire" the other night and talked about if you're 64 and there are two of you and you each earn $34,000 a year, if you get married, you have a $10,000 hit in the drop in what happens to insurance -- >> because of combined income. >> $10,000 for a couple earning $60,000. anti marriage and prodivorce provision. i don't think anybody knew it was in there. i think the key question from the standpoint of president obama is if they can get the website fixed and sooner or later with enough money they will, do enough young people sign up or what we see happen,

the young people available are going into medicaid expansion and the pool is shrinking and in which case the danger is the obama care pool becomes a high-risk pool with very -- >> there are plenty of young people who fit in above the medicare and who would go into the insurance exchange. this is an important issue newt is raising. it's something we have to monitor but looks like young people are very interested in the chapinexchanges so. >> what elected officials heard and i'm sure yo did, too, we want what you got. that's basically what we're trying to do here. the 8 million federal employees in the federal plan are the reason why members of congress could get a private insurance package that was good coverage at a reasonable cost because we were pooled with the other 8 million federal employees. when the young people get in

there, we got to get them in there and create the competitiveness that happen when is you pull people like that. >> hope and change that it will play out next year. i want to thank you for coming. good to see you again. >> thank you when we come back, we want to talk about joe biden, hillary clinton and chris christie, part of secrets in the 2012 campaign next. she loves a lot of the same things you do.

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we are back with david, mira night beginning rish. a book that what went on in 201 and a big headline is administration or campaign focus grouped what it would be like to have hillary clinton on the

ticket, sort of did some quiet polling and the president didn't know anything about it. is there any doubt in your minds that right now hillary clinton reading that is thinking wow, dodged a bullet here? in the sense of you look at the president's poll numbers right now, do you want to be joe biden or hillary clinton? >> you know, i have to say just reading everything i've read about it, i feel a little bad for joe biden. he's done a great job and been extremely loyal to the president and a great campaigner. i think it was disservice to test the question but seems it was never taken seriously from everything they say. >> i want to reinforce and say there is, i believe, no possibility that obama would have brought in hillary clinton because bill would come with her. [ laughter ] >> i think -- >> and the book by the way, is revealing about that. >> if you said you have to be e relegislated but bill clinton is going to be next to you for four years, he would say it's not

worth it. i don't need this level of pain. >> i completely agree with that. i think they are great reporters, but this is just to get people talking about it on shows like this. there is no chance of this happening at all. >> and in fact -- >> it's interesting that they polled, though, it is and maybe a little bit stupid of them to have done that. >> sort of a sign of how nervous they were in 2011 as they look at the numbers saying what can we do because the economy was not good. >> the president came back from the approximatepoll numbers, ri? >> he did -- >> he came back from those poll numbers and can come back from these poll numbers. >> when sources try to push one candidate or another, i want to read you something chuck schumer was in iowa last night and one of the things he said was quote, run, hilary run if you win we'll all win. 2016 is hilary's time and the nation will be all the better

for it. the book about oh, maybe they replace him, maybe they didn't which i'm sure he understands he's a big boy and gets how this goes. we had a steady stream of people going hey, hilary go who have known joe biden forever. what is the message here to him? >> the message is that if hilary wants to run, he won't run and he knows that and that she has a better chance of winning than he does. but, you know, everything points to the direction of her running but history and life often gets in the way of what people think will happen. >> as in 2008? >> yes. >> right. what do you think about -- >> first of all, i thought up until april of 2008 that she was going to be the nominee, so i'm probably the worst possible person to ask. i think that if she decides to run, she probably has the nomination almost without competition because it's going to be so hard to mount a campaign against her. i also think that depending on what the next few years are

like, she could have a much harder general election than people think because she'll be the candidate of it. chirstie won't run for president to keep wash sh the way it is. the last poll showed 80% of the country think the country is broken. you can't be around since 1992 and show up and say i'm the real candidate of change. >> although, ronald reagan ran in the second term as an outsider so could she pull it off? >> i work for hilary so i'm a partisan for her, for sure. i do think you're seeing a grounds level of support for her. chris christie and his biggest opposition is from republicans. whether he can make it through the primary is a big question. we see that mitt romney moved far right and hurt him in the

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we're back with david, mira and newt gingrich. to the republican side of the equation in this book "double down" which is basically the new game change from 2012, the relationship between mitt romney and chris christie is fascinating to me because there is this admiration of a guy fighting on the part of mitt room knee and disgust because he was late all the time and worried about things in his background, ultimately, mitt romney didn't decide for chris christie. the question is, why does this stuff get leaked right now, and whether you think it hurts chris christie at this point, should

he be a 2016 candidate? >> it's obvious. the romney people hit christie and those feelings eliminated he helped obama get reelected. i think it's nothing more than trying to undo christi as part of revenge in a sense. >> when you look at it, it also reveals sort of not really very nice side of mitt romney and some of the little things he felt about chris christie. >> first of all, no presidential nominee picks somebody who will overshadow them. chris chrkris chris tee next to romney would shrink and christie would blossom.

it's hard to think this controlled person in the business community will pick this wild prosecutor with a huge body and a huge ego and huge expansive personality and i suspect -- i'd also say in defense of christie if you state gets hit by something like sandy. you love the person that helps you. the idea he was calculating carefully, i think he was emotionally engaged in what happened to the jersey shore and genuinely grateful and to not have a spirit of understanding that is petty. >> it's surprising that someone decided to dump this vetting file. >> that connections -- >> it has all kinds of -- and he should defend himself. it has all kinds of allegations and kind of a horrible thing and people put their trust in the vetters and for someone a year late tore leak it is a horrible thi thing to do but will create chr

think it's damaging to chris christie this happened and unfortunate someone hated him so much to do something -- >> what i read of it so far really says more about romney than christie. romney had a narrow perspective someone running with him should look like, almost getting into the detroit athletic club, whether christie could qualify. >> there was a clubbing feel. >> the actual names they gave the vice presidential candidates is ridiculous. the fact you give rubio -- >> the campaign when it comes out -- >> let's divide the past and future. if christie decides he wants to run for president. this is nothing. i mean, running for president is the toughest thing -- >> right, it's nothing compared to what else will come. >> i presume he will ignore.

cruz to a huge victory tuesday and wave got buy to the romney team and not worry about it. it does tell you there was a level of pettiness and a level of insolarty of being hidden away from the real world that sort of permeated the not all of this book has come out yet, newt. were you going to appear in this? i imagine you are. your relationship with romney? >> we had lunch with one of the authors and talked at length and it's part of the process. if you are going to be in the game at that level, you have to recognize this is how america does these things. >> it is. we have to go back through whatever happened. how will it describe newt gingrich's relationship to mitt romney? >> probably close to non-existe non-existent. we fought a very hard fight. i was clear about what i thought about his tactics. i think in the absence of an

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okay. we have virginia could go all blue. all democrat next tuesday. we've had this race between terry mcauliffe also known as friend of bill against a conservative republican cuccinelli. speaker gingrich, from what we can tell, cuccinelli, the republican, has always been behind. we think it will be a blowout victory for chris christie. let's start with virginia. is it an indictment of the republican party? how are we to read cuccinelli's -- if cuccinelli loses? >> it's not an indictment of the republican party. we'll have christie win by 20 points plus. >> is it an indictment on part of the republican party? >> this is a question about the campaign that was run in virginia and i think that if you don't run an aggressive campaign very early, you don't define yourself very early, you let your opponent define you and if you have mccauliffe's ability to

raise money. >> they played the female card much like they did with obama's victory in virginia. >> terry has gone up against nra and been out for medicaid expansion. he's actually campaigning a little bit on the affordable care act itself through medicaid expansion but he's also been business friendly and pragmatic. this is an indictment of the tea party and people that shut down the government have been behind ken cuccinelli and it's a failure in a state that should be purple is turning blue. >> who would have thunk it? ter terry mcauliffe, governor of virginia. cuccinelli has been giving mcauliffe a lot of issues. he's actually learned and become

a better candidate than anyone thought he would be and he has magic of bill clinton in this case. and that's still there. and hillary clinton campaigned for him as well. helping with the woman's vote as well. >> one of the great challenges for '16, two of the most popular politicians today are bill and hillary clinton. it's something that republicans have to think about strategically. >> her numbers are so high. >> the fact that chris christie will win in new jersey, any larger implications for republican party in that? >> people want change. they want effective implementable change. most of the republican governors are in good shape. it's washington that's a total mess. >> the larger question is whether the republican party will accept one like christie. >> you have to get through the primaries as you know. thank you guys so much for coming today. thank you all for watching "state of the union." i'm candy crowley in washington. head to cnn.com/sotu for

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